Modified some borders, also restored the colonial territories of the Dutch, Belgians, and French gov't in exile (although their territories are de facto occupied by Anglo-American forces). I also colored in the Soviet Far East American, as it would make more sense for the Americans to occupy the territory as to deny the Reich any access to Soviet Pacific ports to help their Japanese allies.
It could be more if there was a reason to be there.
The Kamchatka Peninsula itself has a nice little valley with a much more temperate climate than you'd expect and an area of several thousand square kilometers of flat, somewhat arable land. The cold conditions make a relatively short growing season, but the large amount of sunlight in the summer is good. There are recent experiments with greenhouses, heated by hydrothermal power. And that's not even considering the fishing, and the limited amount of agriculture and animal husbandry possible beyond.
If you wanted to, I bet it could support single digit millions.
It could be more if there was a reason to be there.
The Kamchatka Peninsula itself has a nice little valley with a much more temperate climate than you'd expect and an area of several thousand square kilometers of flat, somewhat arable land. The cold conditions make a relatively short growing season, but the large amount of sunlight in the summer is good. There are recent experiments with greenhouses, heated by hydrothermal power. And that's not even considering the fishing, and the limited amount of agriculture and animal husbandry possible beyond.
If you wanted to, I bet it could support single digit millions.
I dunno, Okhotsk has less than 3,000 people, much of the actual useful areas are in Manchuria, the Northern coast would only remain relevant if they didn't have the Southern areas.
Probably as viable as independent Patagonia or Alaska. It's livable enough especially with current technology, but really difficult to establish. There is nothing much of resource except gold. And reindeer.
Probably as viable as independent Patagonia or Alaska. It's livable enough especially with current technology, but really difficult to establish. There is nothing much of resource except gold. And reindeer.
And literally every other mineral if you're willing to invest in the accessing it. Admittedly, it'll be super expensive. But if its done..... ooooh the riches to come flowin'.... one can dream ;_;
I was actually working on a Worlda when I started to get stumped past Europe and (most of) the Americas, and I also got an urge to figure out Germany's internals leading to the map as you see here. Some of the more definitive and solid ideas I have at the moment are:
There being multiple Hanoverian monarchies, namely Canada, Australia and New Zealand. And no, not a Commonwealth Realm situation where the monarch of the UK is also monarch of these countries. They outright have their own monarchs. As in there's a Canadian King of Canada reigning in Ottawa and so on and forth.
1812 went real belly up for the United States, though they eventually recovered and then took more out of Mexico come a delayed Mex-Am War in the 1850s (plus some additional southwards expansions in the Caribbean). An alternate Civil War in the 1870s also radically altered the place, it being a (successful) Northern (and Western) Free Soiler revolution than a suppression of an attempted Southern secession. Suffice to say, the present USA of TTL is a notably more multicultural/racial entity compared to OTL. "Significantly more Hispanic and somewhat more Black" is one way to put it. I also envision American politics taking a somewhat bizzare turn relative to OTL. It's still a system dominated by two major parties (said parties being the Federalists and Democratic-Republicans), though with a healthier third party ecosystem, no first past the post, and... an unholy proportional distribution of electoral votes during presidential elections.
"Portugal" and Canada might not be the only monarchies in the Americas. Depending on what I decide to settle on regarding the Andes, there may be a (Neo?)Neo-Incan Peruvian Empire presently existing ITTL. Whether or not this was the result of Tupac Amaru II or his family having better fortunes ITTL or the result of a strange LARP on the part of a later revolutionary, I'm not so sure. Neither am I certain if it should still be a thing or, in accordance to the recurring gag regarding a supporting character in the Suite Life that led me to consider its inclusion, fallen to republican revolution; the latter option leaving open the chance for a messy and farcical attempt at a restoration somewhere down the line.
Patagonia is Chilean ITTL. Argentina still claims the Falklands in spite of this.
The colonization of Africa saw a more "British Raj" esque reliance on protectorate and client monarchs, which has led to a significant number of independent kingdoms and chiefdoms existing in TTL's present day. Debating on whether or not Angola is still "Portuguese" or if the place has gone its own way (potentially with a local-born Braganza attempting to pull his own Pedro I during its independence).
Things went very, very badly for the First (and only) Saudi State, and Wahhabism pretty much tripped and fatally cracked its head on a rock during its adolescence. A Neo-Sufist wave took the place of what would have been the flowering of Salafism IOTL.
As an additional ideological side-note, Marx and Marxism still do exist ITTL, but the success of various liberal revolutions stymied some of his radicalism. Socialism ITTL takes on a somewhat more "utopian socialist" bend relative to the OTL monopoly of "scientific socialism", democratic and libertarian schools of it being the mainstream (of course, that's not to say revolutionary or authoritarian schools don't exist ITTL, it's just they are on the relative fringe of it).
The Grand Mughal in Delhi reigns as the Kaisar-i-Hind, that bit is certain (still figuring out the "how" of that). Also certain is the fact that India's internal boundaries, with its many princely states, makes cartographers everywhere want to cry whenever they have to draw it accurately.
I also have an idea that China presently has three competing claimants to the Mandate of Heaven after something happened to the Qing. There's an "Imperial China" with its capital in Beijing, another in Nanjing, and the third centered in Xi'an/Chang'an. It's abit like the PRC/ROC, except recognition of who's the "real China" is somewhat more evenly distributed, though most nations go for a "recognize all" approach (with a few "recognize nones" sprinkled here and there). Furthermore, none of the claimant dynasties are ethnically Han.
Thanks. I certainly hope I eventually manage to cook up more ideas for the global Worlda of it.
Did briefly consider going for that, with a craptonne of micro states, some fictitious and in ahistorical geologies (i.e. - nonexistent IRL peninsulae and islands). Ultimately I've decided to keep it relatively grounded, with the "Disney Channel vibe" coming in the form of a general optimistic vibe, monarchies existing everywhere (to the point that constitutional monarchism is TTL's dominant form of government), and a generally implied to be significantly more tolerant and progressive than OTL global social outlook.
Oh, and there may or may not be an international academy somewhere in the Alps where a bunch of royal tweens goof off and commit many antics that may or may not generate a international diplomatic incident once or twice a semester.
Something, something, "eccentricities of alternate post-Napoloenic border settlement".
I don't know if you'd be interested in more ideas, but if you're looking for anything in South America there was a local monarchist movement in Argentina from around the same time as your POD that could be interesting to integrate.
I was actually working on a Worlda when I started to get stumped past Europe and (most of) the Americas, and I also got an urge to figure out Germany's internals leading to the map as you see here. Some of the more definitive and solid ideas I have at the moment are:
There being multiple Hanoverian monarchies, namely Canada, Australia and New Zealand. And no, not a Commonwealth Realm situation where the monarch of the UK is also monarch of these countries. They outright have their own monarchs. As in there's a Canadian King of Canada reigning in Ottawa and so on and forth.
1812 went real belly up for the United States, though they eventually recovered and then took more out of Mexico come a delayed Mex-Am War in the 1850s (plus some additional southwards expansions in the Caribbean). An alternate Civil War in the 1870s also radically altered the place, it being a (successful) Northern (and Western) Free Soiler revolution than a suppression of an attempted Southern secession. Suffice to say, the present USA of TTL is a notably more multicultural/racial entity compared to OTL. "Significantly more Hispanic and somewhat more Black" is one way to put it. I also envision American politics taking a somewhat bizzare turn relative to OTL. It's still a system dominated by two major parties (said parties being the Federalists and Democratic-Republicans), though with a healthier third party ecosystem, no first past the post, and... an unholy proportional distribution of electoral votes during presidential elections.
"Portugal" and Canada might not be the only monarchies in the Americas. Depending on what I decide to settle on regarding the Andes, there may be a (Neo?)Neo-Incan Peruvian Empire presently existing ITTL. Whether or not this was the result of Tupac Amaru II or his family having better fortunes ITTL or the result of a strange LARP on the part of a later revolutionary, I'm not so sure. Neither am I certain if it should still be a thing or, in accordance to the recurring gag regarding a supporting character in the Suite Life that led me to consider its inclusion, fallen to republican revolution; the latter option leaving open the chance for a messy and farcical attempt at a restoration somewhere down the line.
Patagonia is Chilean ITTL. Argentina still claims the Falklands in spite of this.
The colonization of Africa saw a more "British Raj" esque reliance on protectorate and client monarchs, which has led to a significant number of independent kingdoms and chiefdoms existing in TTL's present day. Debating on whether or not Angola is still "Portuguese" or if the place has gone its own way (potentially with a local-born Braganza attempting to pull his own Pedro I during its independence).
Things went very, very badly for the First (and only) Saudi State, and Wahhabism pretty much tripped and fatally cracked its head on a rock during its adolescence. A Neo-Sufist wave took the place of what would have been the flowering of Salafism IOTL.
As an additional ideological side-note, Marx and Marxism still do exist ITTL, but the success of various liberal revolutions stymied some of his radicalism. Socialism ITTL takes on a somewhat more "utopian socialist" bend relative to the OTL monopoly of "scientific socialism", democratic and libertarian schools of it being the mainstream (of course, that's not to say revolutionary or authoritarian schools don't exist ITTL, it's just they are on the relative fringe of it).
The Grand Mughal in Delhi reigns as the Kaisar-i-Hind, that bit is certain (still figuring out the "how" of that). Also certain is the fact that India's internal boundaries, with its many princely states, makes cartographers everywhere want to cry whenever they have to draw it accurately.
I also have an idea that China presently has three competing claimants to the Mandate of Heaven after something happened to the Qing. There's an "Imperial China" with its capital in Beijing, another in Nanjing, and the third centered in Xi'an/Chang'an. It's abit like the PRC/ROC, except recognition of who's the "real China" is somewhat more evenly distributed, though most nations go for a "recognize all" approach (with a few "recognize nones" sprinkled here and there). Furthermore, none of the claimant dynasties are ethnically Han.
Thanks. I certainly hope I eventually manage to cook up more ideas for the global Worlda of it.
Did briefly consider going for that, with a craptonne of micro states, some fictitious and in ahistorical geologies (i.e. - nonexistent IRL peninsulae and islands). Ultimately I've decided to keep it relatively grounded, with the "Disney Channel vibe" coming in the form of a general optimistic vibe, monarchies existing everywhere (to the point that constitutional monarchism is TTL's dominant form of government), and a generally implied to be significantly more tolerant and progressive than OTL global social outlook.
Oh, and there may or may not be an international academy somewhere in the Alps where a bunch of royal tweens goof off and commit many antics that may or may not generate a international diplomatic incident once or twice a semester.
Something, something, "eccentricities of alternate post-Napoloenic border settlement".
I dunno, Okhotsk has less than 3,000 people, much of the actual useful areas are in Manchuria, the Northern coast would only remain relevant if they didn't have the Southern areas.
Okhotsk was important for Russia because of its natural harbor and position at a Pacific terminus of the Siberian river routes. Its productive capacity and population were largely irrelevant since its importance was related to the reason any Russian settlement east of the Urals was important: it helped establish Russian control over Siberia. It lost its relevance as a result of the Trans-Siberian railway but prior to that it was absolutely a critical Russian port on the Pacific.
And literally every other mineral if you're willing to invest in the accessing it. Admittedly, it'll be super expensive. But if its done..... ooooh the riches to come flowin'.... one can dream ;_;
Modified some borders, also restored the colonial territories of the Dutch, Belgians, and French gov't in exile (although their territories are de facto occupied by Anglo-American forces). I also colored in the Soviet Far East American, as it would make more sense for the Americans to occupy the territory as to deny the Reich any access to Soviet Pacific ports to help their Japanese allies.
Really small nitpick but the Channel Islands should also be colored as British, the WAllies took it during Operation Spider in the TL. Otherwise, it looks good!
The 1970s Caribbean War between the US/UK against the Caribbean Union (a socialist federation) in my TL. While everyone expected a quick Anglo-American victory to remove the left-wing government, several unexpected military defeats plus the reveal of nuclear missiles (later to be revealed of Soviet origin) in the Yucatan peninsula, and the subsequent ultimatum by the Caribbean government to withdraw or expect nuclear retaliation just before American forces took Mexico City, made the US pull back its troops and the war would come to a swift end days later. The Caribbean Union would gain territory in the West Indies and revoke all claims to British Belize as part of the peace treaty.
The 1970s Caribbean War between the US/UK against the Caribbean Union (a socialist federation) in my TL. While everyone expected a quick Anglo-American victory to remove the left-wing government, several unexpected military defeats plus the reveal of nuclear missiles (later to be revealed of Soviet origin) in the Yucatan peninsula, and the subsequent ultimatum by the Caribbean government to withdraw or expect nuclear retaliation just before American forces took Mexico City, made the US pull back its troops and the war would come to a swift end days later. The Caribbean Union would gain territory in the West Indies and revoke all claims to British Belize as part of the peace treaty. View attachment 904635
During the revolutions that led to the creation of the Caribbean Union, Costa Rica defeated the insurgents and was then protected by the US. (Yes, other countries were also protected by the US but revolutions succeeded nonetheless). As a result, Costa Rica is still independent and the Panama Canal Zone is also controlled by the US
During the revolutions that led to the creation of the Caribbean Union, Costa Rica defeated the insurgents and was then protected by the US. (Yes, other countries were also protected by the US but revolutions succeeded nonetheless). As a result, Costa Rica is still independent and the Panama Canal Zone is also controlled by the US
The 1970s Caribbean War between the US/UK against the Caribbean Union (a socialist federation) in my TL. While everyone expected a quick Anglo-American victory to remove the left-wing government, several unexpected military defeats plus the reveal of nuclear missiles (later to be revealed of Soviet origin) in the Yucatan peninsula, and the subsequent ultimatum by the Caribbean government to withdraw or expect nuclear retaliation just before American forces took Mexico City, made the US pull back its troops and the war would come to a swift end days later. The Caribbean Union would gain territory in the West Indies and revoke all claims to British Belize as part of the peace treaty. View attachment 904635
Wonder how the Jamaicans, Trinis, and the rest of the lesser antilles feel about the Caribbean Union (That seems to be dominanted by mexico, unless if im misunderstanding something)
The 1970s Caribbean War between the US/UK against the Caribbean Union (a socialist federation) in my TL. While everyone expected a quick Anglo-American victory to remove the left-wing government, several unexpected military defeats plus the reveal of nuclear missiles (later to be revealed of Soviet origin) in the Yucatan peninsula, and the subsequent ultimatum by the Caribbean government to withdraw or expect nuclear retaliation just before American forces took Mexico City, made the US pull back its troops and the war would come to a swift end days later. The Caribbean Union would gain territory in the West Indies and revoke all claims to British Belize as part of the peace treaty.
Honestly i will have more expected the US government calmy explain to whatever is in charge in the carribean Union how extremely unwise or better utterly stupid and suicidal will have been even think about that move.
